Curry County, NM

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NM Private Ranch GMU 51 Hunts

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  • Listing Id #: 53379
  • 5000 acres
  • 1 - 3 Hunters

Currently Leased Next Available: 1

                            Hunt ID: 8125-NM-G-M-3500-034-ElkMDeerAntelopeBSheepOryxTurkey-OSBR4AZ-R1B-REL3LAU-Mostly Public Land hunt with reduced Prices
New Mexico Draw, Hunting 101
New Mexico is the Land of Enchantment if nothing elk but the mysterious hunting drawing licensed. It can be the most difficult place for a non-resident unless you pick your battles and plan for them. The squeeze on the non-resident to make him pick another state to hunt is intense, but there is some low hanging fruit available if you know where to pick it. You will also be rewarded with a mule deer hunt at a steal of a price. The key is to plan, book and wait a year to go.
With the exception of North Dakota which is totally anti-non-resident deer hunting with a rifle or South Dakota where the east half of the state is non-resident deer hunting with a rifle, states when it comes to drawing and hunting.
New Mexico has about 60,000 elk where Colorado has 450,000 elk. New Mexico can say of the bulls they have taken each year more are bigger than Colorado. That is a true statement by volume. When you are talking apples and apples it is better if I give you some of the facts.
As a non-resident applying for a non-resident deer elk or antelope on public you have about a 1% chance of drawing. They do have the option where a non-resident can put in under an outfitters license and have a 6% chance of drawing. Now you understand why hunters say I need to see if I draw in New Mexico before I know what other hunts to plan to hunt.
There is also the option for landowner vouchers or tags that allow the licenses to be used on private land usually. 
Simply put 84% of the licenses are given to the residents, and 10% to the outfitters draw, and 6 % to non-residents as a standard structure. Now where it gets extreme is when you take the 6% non-resident chunk and fight for a license against all the non-residents that put in also you see the outcome is that you had a 1% chance of drawing against them. That percentage changes by animal and unit being hunt, along with weapon but as a whole for the non-resident it is usually more likely to be hit by lightning then to draw.
Add to this that no one ever has any points so it is always just a straight draw. You never move up in line. As it is if they did have points it would be 20-30 points to draw.
Is it possible it draws, yes, it is, possible, but likely not. What can you do to edge your best and have the best odds? First of all, put in under and outfitters license. He also knows the units that have the best drawing odds because he lives by them.
If you are still looking for the silver bullet or the silver lining if you are and archer rather than a gun hunter. 
New Mexico Mule Deer Hunt
At a Price than can’t be beat!
Mom always said good things come to those who wait. I didn’t know what she meant until this hunt came along. Many times, we wait a year or two for preference points or using high priced vouchers. In this case we are just waiting to get in.
There are areas in the New Mexico sand hills that have a 100% draw believe it or not because very few put in for it. Where the deer are there are no roads, so it is more or less walking in soft sand all day, which is not for everyone. There is a lot of brush so walking in a straight line can be difficult and it is not 4-wheeler friendly.
The hunt books up a year in advance taking 130-150 bucks with an occasional 160 buck for the long walkers. The hunt itself is 100% success and has great discounts, but so much in demand and rebooking you must book with a 50% 1 year in advance to get a hunt. The best part is you don’t have to buy an expensive New Mexico voucher.
Mule Deer are landowner managed on private property. This means on a private ranch you are able to ask the landowner for permission to hunt his property. If he agrees you can and it may include a price, get his permission and a permission letter. Take the letter to the NMG&F and they will sell you a deer license that is only good on that ranch.
It has taken me some years to really find a good mule deer hunt here in NM worth providing on public land.  We will now start providing hunts in Unit 31 near Clovis NM.  Over the past few years Me and the 2 other guides have been looking over this area and can say I was pretty impressed with amount of deer and quality seen on public land especially for NM. 
 I would say that your average buck that you can harvest here would be in 130-150 class range with a chance at possibly bigger 160-170!  We have taken out a 171 and 180 buck in past years.  Better than that the odds of drawing this tag is really high, so you can almost count on getting the tag in outfitter pool of course.  Terrain is all sand hills so pretty much like walking on a beach all day, most of the hunting is spot and stalk and this is a walking hunt and although there is nothing real steep or mountainous do expect to cover up to 5 miles or more a day.  Most times we have been out we have seen up to 8 bucks a day.  If hunting Mule Deer in NM is on your list this might be the hunt for you!  Taking reservations for 2019 booked 2017 and 2018 as the draw is 100% only taking 2-4 clients out each season.

Deer License is $270.00
Seasons: 1st Rifle Nov 4-8, 2017
2nd Rifle Nov 18-22, 2017
Muzzleloader   Oct 21-25, 2017


Package 1 - Fully Outfitted 4-Day
2x1 Any Weapon $ 3500 but with deposit in the prior year id available Discounted to only …$2,595.00
1x1 Any Weapon $ 4500 but with deposit in the prior year id available Discounted to only …     $3,195.00
Lodging, food and transportation provided.  Lodging will either be hotel or trailer, 3 meals a day provided with snacks and drinks.
Guide and field care provided, pack outs are a team effort.
Airport pickup add $125.00
Non-hunter add $150.00 a day

Package 2 - Just Guided 4-Day
2x1 Any Weapon            $1,595.00
1x1 Any Weapon           $2,195.00
You provide lodging, food and transportation or fuel cost to use guides truck.  Expect to provide food and lodging for your guide as-well or add an extra 100.00 a day to have guide supply his own.
Guide and field care provided, pack outs are team effort
Airport pick up add $150.00

Elk are managed by the state so it is the draw or a voucher if you are not a resident. This has made New Mexico’s Elk hunts quite high. Ad to this the New Mexico Indian reservations that easily bread 360 on their bulls selling voucher/licenses to the public at the highest dollar in the land. Again, an Outfitted hunt is the way to go if you are hunting New Mexico, just to be able to get to hunt.


Then the Antelope come into play, vouchers for private land usually run about $1500 and the outfitter an additional $1000 to $ 2000 depending on the quality of the antelope in the area where you hunt.
You would think that at the prices the Landowner vouchers would be hanging on trees. The truth is that they are very difficult to find, and are usually sold before the landowner even has them in their hand each year.

Application dates and deadlines are in March for Deer, Elk, Antelope, Oryx and Barbary Sheep, with hunting in September, October and November.
Then if we go to hunting the other two red meats, Oryx and Barbary Sheep or as the call them in Texas Aoudad the hunting seasons change dramatically. Barbary Sheep hunting takes place in February and Oryx in March, April and May. Depending if you are hunting on The White Sands Missile Range or “Off Range” on public property. 
This is a last opportunity to shoot a Bull Elk on a private 5000 acres plus ranch this year the season runs from November 17 to December 31st. The ranch buts up against a large section of BLM land which also has elk but also public hunters. The private ranch you will be hunting is south of Chama near a town Cal Brazos. The elk from Chama migrate to this ranch in the fall and winter to meet a large local herd. 
When the hunters are on the BLM land the elk quickly move to this private ranch and stay there. We have all been on the other side of the fence and seen elk move onto private land and we couldn’t touch them. In this case you are the one getting the advantage of the elk movement from public to private land. In addition, there is a large local herd that stays on the ranch. 
Bull elk sizes range 275 plus but of course how much above 300 must do with your elk hunting skills and of course luck. Traditionally December is a prime month as elk migrate on to the ranch for the winter.  Herds in the 100 or so range are common during the month. The landowner was branding cattle last week and saw a herd of 5 bulls 3 or which were well over 300 points B&C Gross. This time of the year the cows are in large herds and the mature bulls are in smaller herds of 3-5 usually. They don’t like being with the cows and the screaming kids so they stay with other bulls over 3.5 years old and older. 
The area is a prime family owned elk ranch with bulls currently staying on it which is normal. No other Bulls have been taken off it since last year. The ranch is west of Highway 285 and Tres Piedra’s ,New Mexico in the northern part of the state where the best elk hunting is located.  
GMU 51: Beginning at the intersection of US 64 and the eastern boundary of the Tierra Amarilla grant, running south then west along the Tierra Amarilla grant boundary line to its intersection with the Rio Chama, then south along the Rio Chama to its intersection with the Piedra  Lumbre grant boundary line, then northeast along the Piedra  Lumbre grant boundary line to its intersection with US 84 northwest of Abiquiu, then southeast along US 84 to its intersection with NM 554 east of Abiquiu, then north and east along NM 554 to its intersection with NM 111, then south along NM 111 to its intersection with US 285 
north of Ojo Caliente, then east and north along US 285 to its intersection with US 64 at Tres Piedras, then west along US 64 to its intersection with the Tierra Amarilla grant boundary. 

And that tags or vouchers are “ranch tags.” You are guaranteed access to this ranch. Instructions for the ranch come from the owner which know the fence lines well and have provided a specific number of elk taken each year in a NM Management program 
You can hunt any dates during this season or multiple times during this season. There are only a total of 7 vouchers so those will be the only ones hunting the property. 
The hunts are all 5 day hunts. We do it in a way that you can have the benefit of the best hunting dates. As always with elk the worse the weather the better the hunting. A storm coming through gets everything moving, where blue bird weather pushes everything in cover and bedded down. The big option to your hunt about this hunt is not only that you always have a flow of migrants coming down for the winter providing movement.

Here are the hunt dates and prices.

Hunt November 29-03       Arrive 11/28 PM     Leave 12/04/2017          $ 2795
Hunt December 06-10        Arrive 12/05 PM     Leave 12/11/2017         $ 2895
Hunt December 13-17        Arrive 12/12 PM     Leave 12/18/2017         $ 2995
Hunt December 20-24        Arrive 12/19 PM     Leave 12/26/2017         $ 3095
Hunt December 27-31        Arrive 12/26 PM     Leave 1/1/2018             $ 3195

Voucher Prices are always favored the later in December that you hunt. December is the coldest and the snowiest month to hunt but with weather to stack your odds the later the better. The biggest bulls usually migrate last but with elk you can only use the word usually because migration and elk are never certain enough to use the word always.
                        

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Types of Land

  • Desert
  • Mountains

Available Hunting

  • Big Game Hunting
  • Small Game & Furbearer Hunting
  • Upland Bird Hunting

Listing Pricing

$2,995.00 Per Year

Price Negotiable: Yes
Background Check Required: No

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NEW MEXICO DEPARTMENT OF GAME & FISH
1 Wildlife Way
Santa Fe,, NM  87507

Website:
http://www.wildlife.state.nm.us/hunting/

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